HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1981.06.03 - 38702OAKLAND COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
June 3. 1981
The meeting was called to order at 9:40 a.m. by Chairman Lewis Wint in the Parks
and Recreation Commission Room.
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Lewis Wint, Secretary Velma Austin, Don Deni, George Kuhn, Dr. Joseph
Montante, Carol Stanley, Richard Wilcox.
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT:
Vice Chairman Marjorie Walker, Fred Houghten
ALSO PRESENT:
Parks and Recreation
Dept. of Public Works
Civil Counsel's Office
West Blmfld. Parks & Rec.
Independence Township
Oakland Golf Dome Associates
Edward C. Levy Company
Honigman, Miller, Schwartz &
Cohn
Anthony M. Franco, Inc.
The Daily Tribune
Oakland Press
R. Eric Reickel, Manager
Jon J. Kipke, Assistant Manager
Joseph Figa, Chief of Design & Development
Charles Ross, Chief Administrative Officer
Arnold Johnston, Chief of Parks
Michael Thibodeau, Chief of Golf
Janet Pung, Public Communications Officer
Sheila Cox, Accountant
Milton Handorf, Director
Jack Hays, Linda Wasielewski
Mary Rocha, Publicity
James B. Smith, Supervisor
Janet McCord, Resident
Donald Pierce, Attorney, Mrs. Pam Thompson
Robert Carson, Vice President
Fred Mensenberg, Engineer
Norman Hyman, Attorney
Dorothy Langan, Account Executive
John Basch
Hank Schaller
Chairman Wint introduced and welcomed the guests to the meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Moved by Dr. Montante, supported by Mr. Kuhn to approve the
minutes of the meeting of May 20, 1981.
Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF PAYMENTS:
Moved by Mrs. Austin, supported by Mr. Deni to approve payment
of Vouchers 5-251 through 5-311.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Kuhn, Montante, Wint, Austin, Deni (5)
NAYS: (0)
A sufficient majority having voted therefor, the motion carried.
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ACTIVITIES REPORT:
Moved by Mr. Deni, supported by Mrs. Austin to accept the
Activities Report as of April, 1981.
It was reiterated that the annual golf memberships apply to White Lake Oaks and
Springfield Oaks only. Mr. Thibodeau suggested that the memberships be discussed
by the Commission at budget time.
A weekly activities report for the Mobile Recreation Section was presented to the
Commission.
Mr. Reickel recently appeared on WDRQ and WWJ Radio to talk about the parks.
Motion carried.
WEEDTRINE, GROVELAND AND ADDISON:
The following bids were received by Purchasing for "Weedtrine" for Addison and
Groveland Oaks. "Weedtrine" is a product used for weekcontrol in lakes:
Bio Serve $6,516.00
Applied Bio Chemist 6,894.48
Utica Distributors 6,385.20
Staff concurred with Purchasing to award the purchase to the low bidder, Utica
Distributors, in the amount of $6,385.20.
Mr. Ross explained that $4000 would come from the lake improvement project for
Addison Oaks and the remaining $2,385.20 from the contingency fund for the
Capital Development Budget.
Mr. Johnston reported that Weedtrine had been used successfully in past years
with no adverse effects to the environment.
Commissioner Montante stated that the Pine Lake Association did not have much
success in using weed killer in the lake and suggested consideration be given to
harvesting weeds in the future or a combination of harvesting and weed killer.
Commissioner Kuhn suggested a meeting be held to discuss long range solutions for
weed control in the lakes.
Moved by Mr. Kuhn, supported by Dr. Montante to approve purchasing
Weedtrine for Addison Oaks and Groveland Oaks from the low bidder,
Utica Distributors, for $6,385.20; the $2,385.20 over budget will
be transferred from the contingency fund for the purchase.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Montante, Wint, Austin, Deni, Kuhn (5)
NAYS: (0)
A sufficient majority having voted therefor, the motion carried.
HEATING AND COOLING - ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE:
Mr. Figa explained that a heating and cooling system was approved in the 1981
budget for the administrative office and requested permission to seek design work
and bids for the project. Both Hoyem/Basso and County engineers from F & 0
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have reviewed the existing system and studied the potential needs to properly heat,
cool and ventilate the building.
Moved by Dr. Montante, supported by Mr. Deni to proceed
with the heating and cooling system for the administrative
office.
Motion carried.
OAKLAND GOLF DOME ASSOCIATES:
Mr. Donald Pierce, partner with Michael Thompson in Oakland Golf Dome Associates,
requested the Commission give consideration to Golf Dome constructing a concrete
grade beam, or perimeter foundation, around the base of the air structure at the
Red Oaks Driving Range.
He explained that the foundation, approximately 6" wide and 4' deep, would give
a better anchorage system to the air structure and should halt the muddy conditions
experienced during the past winter. It would also allow a better seal around the
base and reduce heat loss during the winter operation.
Mr. Pierce also requested that the Commission consider extending its lease with
Golf Dome.
Chairman Wint requested a financial report of the Dome's activities prior to any
discussion about extending the lease.
Staff suggested that Golf Dome be given permission to proceed with the engineering
of the grade beam and obtain approvals from the Drain Commission for the project.
Moved by Mrs. Austin, supported by Mr. Deni to refer Golf
Dome's request to staff and to the Drain Commission for
approval.
Motion carried.
LEVY COMPANY - INDEPENDENCE TOWNSHIP MINING SITE:
Normany Hyman of Honigman, Miller, Schwartz and Cohn, representing the Edward C.
Levy Company, talked to the Commission about the 500 acres the Levy Company owns
between Independence Oaks County Park and Clintonwood Park owned by Independence
Township.
The Levy Company wants to mine gravel on the land and is seeking a permit to do so
from the Department of Natural Resources.
Mr. Hyman indicated that the value of the land had appreciatedsubstantially since
the Parks and Recreation Commission had applied to the Michigan Land Trust Fund
in 1977 to acquire the flood plain between Independence Oaks and Clintonwood Park.
Mr. Hyman said there was $14 million worth of gravel on the site.
Referring -to 100 acres of wetlands, Mr. Hyman indicated that the "Levy Company
was prepared to convey the land to the Oakland County Parks and Recreation Commission
at a cost it could afford to pay." He further indicated "1 believe the only way
you are going to get the land you want is by working through us."
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Levy would mine the land for 19 years before turning it into a low density
residential subdivision.
Mr. Figa expressed concern about whether the mining operation would affect the
water table of the Clinton River and Crooked Lake in Independence Oaks and further
indicated that the exact definition of the boundaries for the wetlands had not
been determined by the DNR.
Mr Hyman expressed concern over "Parks and Recreation being in the vanguard of
opposition to our proposal" and that Mr. Reickel, in public statements, had
"come across to the public as partisan."
Mr. Reickel stated that he, and the Commission, had an obligation to protect the
850-acre Independence Oaks Park and the environment surrounding it. He said it
had not been proven to him, beyond a doubt, that the mining operation would not
have a negative effect on the flood plain and Crooked Lake within the present
park boundaries.
Commissioner Montante stated the Commission represented all of Oakland County and
decisions such as these were up to the local communities; also, Levy would not be
able to get a DNR permit to mine the 100 acres because it was protected wetlands.
James Smith, Independence Township Supervisor, stated "What we are seeing here
today is, in essence, an effort to make a deal with the County to shortchange
the whole thing."
Chairman Wint said that Mr. Reickel and Mr. Figa had an obligation to the Commission
and if they felt there was anything that would jeopardize Independence Oaks, they
were within their parameters to state their opinions on the subject.
Mr. Hyman concluded his presentation by saying that the Levy Company would continue
to work with the DNR to obtain a gravel mining permit.
WATERFORD OAKS WATER SLIDE:
Jim Scott of James C. Scott & Associates proposed that his firm be hired as con-
struction manager and enter into agreement with the Parks and Recreation Commission
to build a water slide at Waterford Oaks for a not to exceed figure of $350,000.
The Commission would purchase the slide and splashdown pool.
Discussion was conducted on the construction manager concept, the bidding processes
for sub-constractors and the obligations of the construction manager and the
Commission.
Moved by Mr. Wilcox, supported by Mrs. Austin to approve the
concept of building the water slide with a construction manager
and that staff meet with the construction manager and legal
counsel to prepare the proper documents for Commission approval.
Moved by Dr. Montante, supported by Mrs. Stanley to table
discussion on the water slide.
ROLL CALL VOTE ON TABLING MOTION:
AYES: Stanley, Deni, Montante (3)
NAYS: Wilcox, Wint, Austin, Kuhn (4)
A sufficient majority not having voted therefor, the motion failed.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Wint, Austin, Deni, Kuhn, Wilcox (5)
NAYS: Montante, Stanley (2)
A sufficient majority having voted therefor, the motion carried.
The slide will be in operation by Memorial Day, 1982.
Chairman Wint was excused from the meeting and Secretary Velma Austin assumed
the chair.
GLEN OAKS: HEATING/COOLING RENOVATION:
Mr. Figa explained that due to maintenance problems and complaints from the
public, it was necessary to replace the heating and cooling system at Glen Oaks.
Hoyem-Basso studied the building and recommended a new system be designed and
installed in a phased program:
1st Phase: Install 15 tons of new A/C in conjunction with
the existing units.
2nd Phase: Install 3 new furnaces and repair a minimum of
present duct work.
3rd Phase: Install the second 15 tons of A/C bringing the
system to recommended size.
4th Phase: Renovate the remaining duct work for the furnaces.
The 1st Phase could be accomplished in early to mid -summer with an estimated cost
of approximately $40,000, depending on the architectural modifications required.
Mr. Figa stated it would probably take $80,000 to $100,000 to complete the total
project.
Staff recommended that Hoyem-Basso be hired to do the design work because of their
familiarity with the building. The cost for the complete design package and
construction documents for all heating, ventilating, air conditioning and related
architectural work would be $17,000 to $20,000.
Moved by Dr. Montante, supported by Mrs. Stanley to proceed
to hire Hoyem-Basso Associates, Inc., to prepare an overall
design plan and construction documents for heating and cooling
at the Glen Oaks Clubhouse; cost to be between $17,000 and
$20,000.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Austin, Deni, Montante, Stanley, Wilcox (5)
NAYS: (0)
A sufficient majority having voted therefor, the motion carried.
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MANAGER'S REPORT:
---Water Ski Show, Groveland Oaks, Sunday, May 7, 4 p.m. Bluegrass music starts
at 2 p.m.
---The Boy's Club of Royal Oak which holds an annual auction to help carry out
its programs, were presented with two 1981 vehicle passes and one free visit of
any mobile recreation unit for their auction.
---The Springfield Oaks Youth Activities Center has been rented for Glenn Riley's
School of Gymnastics for boys and girls, ages 4 to 7.
---The Madison Heights City Council requested that the Commission give consid-
eration to citizens planting gardens on the Red Run Drain at Red Oaks. As
stated at the Public Hearing, Mr. Reickel reiterated that the soil was not
conducive to gardening and the Commission did not have the authority to grant
such a request.
Moved by Mr. Wilcox, supported by Dr. Montante to refer the
gardening request to the Red Run Drainage Authority.
Motion carried.
---Ms. Pung reported on the National Recreation and Park Association's ''Life,
Be In It'' program which is a thrust to get people involved in recreational
programs. NRPA is asking the involvement of parks and recreation departments
throughout the country. A $25 fee is required to use the logo of the program
and to obtain materials provided by NRPA.
Ms. Pung recommended the Commission participate in the program. She will
present a resoltuion pertaining to the program at the next meeting.
---Received request from a citizen to lease a portion of Orion Oaks for planting
corn.
Mr. Ross stated that Civil Counsel's office had reviewed the request and
recommended entering into a one-year verbal agreement for $15 per acre.
Moved by Mr. Deni, supported by Mrs. Stanley to approve for
one year, the planting of corn at Orion Oaks on no more than
100 acres for $15 per acre.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Deni, Montante, Stanley, Wilcox, Austin (5)
NAYS: (0)
A sufficient majority having voted therefor, the motion carried.
---Mr. Figa explained that due to federal guidelines, Parks and Recreation was
required to relocate the family who resided on the Orion Oaks property when we
purchased it. We are allowed $4000 for the re -location; however, due to Mrs.
Lomerson being on Social Security and having a handicapped son, special con-
siderations could increase the expense to $7000 for three years.
---Received request from the Oaks Corporation to install an 8' x 10' refrigerated
walk-in at White Lake Oaks. Parks and Recreation personnel would do the
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preparation work necessary to the installation. The Commission had no
objection.
---Junior Golf Tournament, June 18 and 19. They will play at White Lake Oaks
on June 18 and Springfield Oaks on June 19.
---Ms. Pung will show a senior citizens slide presentation at the next meeting.
The meeting adjourned at 11:55 a.m.
Velma Austin
Secretary
Betty u st
Recor ing Secretary
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