HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 2000.10.04 - 39080OAKLAND COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
October 4, 2000
Chairman Pecky Lewis called the meeting to order at 9:11 a.m. in the commission room of the Parks and
Recreation's administration office.
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Pecky D. Lewis, Jr., Vice Chairman Richard Skarritt, Secretary Richard D. Kuhn, Jr.,
George Kuhn, Thomas Law, Ruel E. McPherson, Charles Palmer, J. David VanderVeen, Richard V. Vogt
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT:
Fred Korzon
ALSO PRESENT:
Parks and Recreation
Oakland County Purchasing
BBDO Advertising
Bank One
Fair Oaks
Private Citizen
Private Citizen
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Ralph Richard, Executive Officer
Daniel Stencil, Administrator — Operations
Frank Trionfi, Administrator - Administration
Jon Kipke, Assistant Administrator
Joseph Figa, Chief, Design and Development
Mike Thibodeau, Chief of Golf
Sue Wells, Chief of Recreation
Janet Pung, Public Communications Officer
Sheila Cox, Accountant IV
Desiree Stanfield, Public Communications Assistant
Bob Rhein, Buyer
Ernie Baker, Vice President
Linda Vaughn, Wealth Management
LC Scramlin
Ray Bruneel
Jeremy Hendley
Moved by Mr. Vogt, supported by Mr. Skarritt to approve the minutes of the public hearing
of September 6, 2000, as written.
AYES: G. Kuhn, R. Kuhn, Lewis, McPherson, Palmer, Skarritt, VanderVeen, Vogt (8)
NAYS: (0)
Motion carried on a voice vote.
Moved by Mr. Palmer, supported by Mr. Vanderveen to approve the minutes of the meeting
of September 6, 2000, as written.
AYES: G. Kuhn, R. Kuhn, Lewis, McPherson, Palmer, Skarritt, VanderVeen, Vogt (8)
NAYS: (0)
Motion carried on a voice vote.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Mr. Ray Bruneel, a member of a golf league at White Lake Oaks, reviewed recent administrative upheavals
within his league, including the league director sending a letter to 18 of the 40 participants terminating their
membership.
Believing the director has acted without authorization from the group, Mr. Bruneel requested Commission
intervention through either Chief of Golf Mike Thibodeau or Pro Shop Supervisor Nancy Seets to prevent
these terminations.
Mr. Thibodeau noted that, because of the large number of leagues and participants at the courses, staff has
always worked with the league contact only.
Commission concurred that this should be worked out internally within the league. However, they directed
staff to contact Corporation Counsel with the question of how we can verify that the person acting on behalf
of the league is authorized by them to do so. Staff will then provide that information to Mr. Bruneel.
PAYMENTS:
Moved by Mr. G. Kuhn, supported by Mr. Palmer to approve the payment of the
Interdepartmental Payment Register for the month of July, 2000 (FM 10 FY 2000); and
the Payment Register, which includes the Voucher Report Period for August, (FM 11, FY
2000), and the CIP (408) Voucher Report Period for August (FM 11, FY 2000).
AYES: G. Kuhn, R. Kuhn, Law, Lewis, McPherson, Palmer, Skarritt, VanderVeen, Vogt (9)
NAYS: (0)
Motion carried on a voice vote.
AWARD PRESENTATION:
Administrator — Park Operations Dan Stencil presented a plaque to Linda Vaughn of Bank One in sincere
appreciation to the William and Myrtle Hess Charitable Foundation for continued charitable support of Orion
Oaks. Mr. Stencil noted that over the years, the Hess Foundation has contributed over $13,000 for
improvements to the park, including the fishing dock, trails, and plantings.
Executive Officer Ralph Richard also noted that the Parks received $4,545 in funds from the SCAMP/Wint
Memorial Golf Classic held on September 8 at Springfield Oaks.
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As per the information filed in the agenda, the following bids were approved as recommended by staff and
Purchasing:
Moved by Mr. R. Kuhn, supported by Mr. Palmer to approve the contract for the painting of
the activity center, horse barn, livestock barn, and announcement stand at Springfield Oaks
to Hermes Painting in the amount of $28,900.00, plus a ten percent contingency of
$2,890.00, for a total budgeted amount of $31,790.00.
AYES: G. Kuhn, R. Kuhn, Law, Lewis, McPherson, Palmer, Skarritt, VanderVeen, Vogt (9)
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NAYS: (0)
Motion carried on a voice vote.
Moved by Mr. Skarritt, supported by Mr. Palmer to approve the purchase of a Toro pull -type
leaf rake for Lyon Oaks from the lone bidder meeting specifications, Spartan Distributors, in
the amount of $23,715.00.
AYES: G. Kuhn, R. Kuhn, Law, Lewis, McPherson, Palmer, Skarritt, VanderVeen, Vogt (9)
NAYS: (0)
Motion carried on a voice vote.
HISTORICAL BARN PRESERVATION PROPOSAL:
Staff has been contacted by RBI 23, LLC, a real estate developing company in north Oakland County,
regarding the Parks Commission's possible interest in providing a site for the relocation of the Ellis barn, a
landmark currently located on Dixie Highway in Springfield Township. The proposed relocation site would be
at Springfield Oaks near the activities center.
The developers have pledged the funds to tear down, move, and restore the barn. A barn expert is currently
working to establish a detailed cost to move and restore it. Fund-raising avenues are currently being explored,
including possible grants.
The developers are requesting a commitment for a new location. If the Commission accepts the barn at one
of the parks, we would then be obligated for future maintenance costs.
Commission directed staff to investigate this proposal further, and prepare a report for a future Commission
meeting answering these questions:
• What are the anticipated normal maintenance costs?
• What specific location would staff recommend?
• What would we use it for?
• Does it fit within our plans for a farm?
• Would this be feasible as a joint project with Macomb County and the Huron -Clinton Metropolitan
Authority?
Staff was authorized to send a letter to the developers expressing their sentiments on this project.
RED OAKS GOLF COURSE/GEORGE KUHN DRAIN EXPANSION PROJECT UPDATE:
Plans for the remodeled golf course have been finalized, and the price for the construction has been
guaranteed until December 1. However, no progress has been made on the sale of the SOCRRA
property.
Deadline is April 1, 2001 for the Golf Dome and Sports Village to be off site. Messrs. Paglino, along with
John McCulloch, met with staff on the feasibility of moving their miniature golf, batting cages, and mini
cart course to the front of the waterpark site. Mr. Richard reviewed the proposed site, along with the
additional water features the Commission is planning for the waterpark.
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Commission concurred that moving the Sports Village to the waterpark site would not be a good fit and
suggested the Paglinos consider contacting Detroit Edison and Madison Heights about other parcels in
the area that might work better for them.
Staff will contact Mr. McCulloch to inform him of the Commission's sentiments on this proposal.
• Contacted Meijer's regarding the possibility of their donating approximately 500 feet of property along the
western edge of the waterpark to serve as a buffer. Meijer's requested we provide a concept and they will
take it under advisement.
• Made a proposal to County Executive Patterson's staff regarding borrowing funds from the delinquent tax
revolving fund; waiting for an answer.
• Commissioner McPherson requested staff research and report back on what other golf courses are doing
in the area, along with recommendations for activities for children while parents play golf; ie, a field house,
tennis courts, horseshoes.
EXECUTIVE OFFICER'S REPORT:
In addition to the Executive Officer's Report filed in the agenda, the following was noted:
---Updated the Commission on the progress of the development at Lyon Oaks. Staff noted consideration of
allowing golf outings two days a week at the beginning of the course's operation as a means of attracting
golfers to the park. However, Commission expressed their preference of allowing fewer outing days, thereby
maintaining greater accessibility to the residents of the county.
---Administrator — Administration Frank Trionfi updated the Commission on the status of the computers and
computer programming for the golf courses.
---Staff will be providing names for consideration on the master plan advisory committee to McKenna and
Associates, consultants for the master plan revision for Orion Oaks. No public hearing has yet been
scheduled. Orion Township has forwarded a copy of their recently adopted resolution, which opposes the
construction of a golf course on the park site.
Staff reiterated that the master plan revision is being done at this time in order to have a current plan on file
with the state for future grant funding.
---The 1999 audit report has not yet been received. As soon as it is provided, staff will present it to the
Commission for approval.
NEW BUSINESS:
Moved by Mr. Vogt, supported by Mr. Law to have the Oakland County Parks and Recreation
Commission extend the courtesy of a yearly pass to the elected officials of Oakland County,
to be made available for their use during their term of office.
Several concerns were raised, including making the pass a picture ID, restrictions on use, extent of the list
of elected officials to whom the passes are sent, lifetime passes, and that the commission has not had time
to consider all the issues involved before voting today.
Moved by Mr. Palmer to carry the motion forward and bring it back for a vote at the next
meeting.
Motion failed for lack of support.
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Moved by Mr. Vogt, supported by Mr. Law to amend the original motion to read, "to have the
Oakland County Parks and Recreation Commission extend the courtesy of a picture ID
yearly pass to the members of the Oakland County Board of Commissioners, the Oakland
County Sheriff, Oakland County Drain Commissioner, Oakland County Clerk/Register of
Deeds, Oakland County Prosecutor, Oakland County Treasurer, and the Oakland County
Executive during their terms of office. No passes will be issued to them if they have a lifetime
pass.
Further discussion followed on the guidelines and language.
Moved by Mr. Palmer, supported by Mr. VanderVeen to table the motion until the meeting.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: R. Kuhn, Law, Lewis, McPherson, Palmer, Skarritt, VanderVeen (7)
NAYS: Vogt (1)
A sufficient majority having voted, the motion carried.
The next regular Commission meeting will be 9:00 a.m. on Wednesday, November 1, 2000.
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eeting wasadjournedat 11:22 a.m.
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Richard D. Kuhn, Jr., Secretary Karen Kohn CPS, Recording Secretary
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