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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
December 18, 1970
1. Call Meeting to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes of November 24,
1970
4. Report on Giant Slide
5. Report on Food Concession Operation
6. Salary Schedule
7. Administrative Budget
8. Review of Operating Budgets
9. New Business
Letter from Mrs. Kadella
Soap Box Derby
10. Adjourn
REPORT ON GIANT SLIDE
The owners of the giant slide have been con-
tacted again. Their orig_i.nal asking price was
$38,000, which included erection on our site. Since
our conversation we have a new price of $30,000
plus $6,000 for installation on our site. They claim
this $6,000 will be a minimum cost.
This is a reduction of $2,000 from the original
asking price.
The value of the slide for our system is
questionable. It is doubtful if the use of it should
be charged for, in addition it means at least one
person for supervision while in use.
There is no doubt that we do need recreational
equipment for all of our parks, however, at the present
it would seem this amount of money could purchase a
considerable amount of equipment that would provide
more recreation opportunities.
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
oakland county service center 2800 watkins lake road pontiac, michigan
Frances Clark
Chairman
Clarence A. Durbin
Vice -Chairman M E M 0
Velma Austin
Secretary
Daniel W. Barry DATE: December 4, 1970
Thomas J. Dillon
Sol D. Lomerson TO: Members of the Oakland County Parks and
Carl W. O'Brien
James L. Reid Recreation Commission
E. Frank Richardson
Henry A. Schiffer
Commissioners
Kenneth L. Van Natta
Director
® For some time we have been researching the
food service industry in an effort to obtain a
Gerard C. Lacey
Assistant Director sound program for our park system. Ours is a
® difficult problem if we are to pursue our desire
of having fine quality foods at reasonable
Pauline McCormick Adm. Assistant prices for our park visitors. To accomplish
® this desire, we will have to control quality,
portions, and prices; be above accepted sanitary
standards; and keep close auditing and security
control.
An unimaginative, easy and simple approach
would be to let this business to the highest
percentage bidder. This is a generally accepted
practice that offers the course of least resis-
tance. Under this arrangement we lose control
of quality, price, and portions. The highest
percentage bidder is usually the more knowledge-
able operator --knowledgeable in corner cutting,
discounts, kickbacks and substitutions. This is
a skilled accomplishment obtained through ex-
perience, usually at the financial cost to the
consumer and the reputation cost to the owner.
My small experience in this field has me
convinced this is not the operation we want for
our parks or for the people that support us.
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MEMO - Page 2
December 4, 1970
To turn from an easy and accepted method is
difficult, but the easy and accepted method does
not hold any awards for us or our park visitors.
We have not been an ordinary system from the time
of conception, and I would hope we never become
"commonplace."
We now have arrived at a point where we
must make a decision that could affect our future.
Mr. and Mrs. Hill and the two girls are leaving
our employment at Addison -Oaks; they will all be
gone January 15, 1971. Our operation at Addison -
Oaks has not been entirely satisfactory and we
have been taking a long, hard look at it. The
recent chain of events, such as the Hills' action
and changing our priorities to development rather
than acquisitions, has brought the problem into
immediate focus.
Not knowing all of the problems that may
confront us makes it difficult to present you
with a written format in a contract form that
you could approve or disapprove of. However, I
am enclosing a letter from a Mr. Hugo Slotkin
that contains some alternatives. I would like to
have you examine alternate #2 as a proposal. I
have not, to this date, found a better solution
or one that holds as much hope for our future as
this, and I would recommend that we pursue this
course.
I believe the following should be known:
Mr. Slotkin has been a friend of mine for some
time. He was formerly the president of Hygrade
Food Products Corporation and chairman of the
Board of Directors. He sold his interest in
this business and has retired from general daily
routine. He is 57 years old and is presently on
the Board of Directors of Nathan's, a New York
food service corporation that does a 20-million
dollar a year business that handles the concessions
at Jones' Beach and other parks, plus restaurants
in New York City. He also serves as a director in
other corporations. Mr. Slotkin is a resident of
Oakland County. He owns a 500 acre farm named
Hy -Meadows in Holly Township and is breeding and
raising championship cattle.
December 3, 1970
Mr. Kenneth L. Van Natta
Oakland County Parks and Recreation Commission
2800 Watkins Lake Road
Pontiac, Michigan 48054
Dear Ken:
Pursuant to our many conversations, I wish to
inform you of the following conclusions I have arrived
at in respect to food service in your park system.
These conclusions were arrived at after serious consider-
ation was given to some of your problems and also those
of a person who would undertake furnishing the service.
The problem was approached with one main line of
thought: What is best for the park system, now and in
the future; and if this concern is the prime object, then
the profit motivation must become secondary.
I would recommend and be willing to undertake the
task of putting an organization together for you that
could and would function with the prime concern being the
park system and its reputation. This can be done one or
more ways:
1. On a consultant fee basis
Under this program I would, for a fee, put an
organization together that would operate as a
County endeavor. This would include accounting
procedures, buying practices, quality and quan-
tity control, and engaging employees. Under
this procedure, all employees would be under the
County system and the entire unit would function
as a branch of the park system.
2. On a share or partnership basis
Under this program the County would furnish all
the facilities. I would furnish the technical
know-how that includes purchasing practices,
accounting, management, and engaging the em-
ployees, and in effect they would be working for
a private individual who would have control.
Under this arrangement we would split the profit
and/or loss on a 50/50 basis.
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Either of these agreements should be for a minimum
period of three years, and at the end of that time, a
good operational history would be available. A new
agreement could then be entered into on the basis of the
results and data that had been accomplished in those
three years.
Without adequate past or current performance records,
any projection of the amount of food business that has
been or could be generated would be pure speculation. I
am firmly convinced any catering service would, at the out-
set of their operation, sustain a loss. The park system
could suffer either through lowering of quality, cutting of
portions, poor service, or raising prices, all of which
create long-lasting disastrous results.
The development of your entire park system into an
established operation will also change this picture. The
three year trial period may allow enough time to have all
your parks properly developed, and this may change your
entire operation.
In pursuing this program, I was encouraged by your
plans of development for your park system. As outlined
to me, this aggressive program should enable you to
satisfactorily serve our growing population. As your
parks are being developed, your food operation consti-
tutes a serious challenge, which I am prepared to accept
and, together, make our County park system the finest.
This is a preliminary proposal and should be further
discussed and itemized before finalization.
Yours truly,
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Hugo lotkin
MEMO - Page 3
December 4, 1970
This man has spent his entire life in the
food industry business and knows every facet of
it from concessions through fine restaurants, all
over the world. With his knowledge and reputa-
tion, we could not possibly afford to hire him.
Fortunately for us, he has always had a keen
interest in and has been a staunch supporter of
our park system. His ideas about the way a food
service business should operate coincides with
ours. He is interested in taking this project on
because it is presently a challenge he would be
willing to accept with us; and also he believes,
as we do, that handled correctly the food business
in our park system has a real potential that he
would like to be a part of.
This item will be on our agenda for the
December 18, 1970 meeting. I would appreciate it
if you would jot down some of your thoughts re-
garding this so they may be discussed.
Cordially;
Kenneth L. Van Natta
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