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R. Eric Reickel
Director
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
• 2800 watkins lake road pontiac, michigan
October 5, 1972
To the Members of the
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Oakland County, Michigan
Ladies and Gentlemen:
A meeting has been called of the PARKS AND RECREATION
COMMISSION as follows:
TIME......................9:30 a.m.
Friday, October 13, 1972
338-6196
Frances Clark
Chairman
Donald W. Nick
Vice -Chairman
Henry A. Schiffer
Secretary
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Clarence A. Durbin
Emil Jawors
William L. Mainland
Paul W. McGovern
Carl W. O'Brien
William M. Richards
E. Frank Richardson
PLACE.....................Parks and Recreation Office
2800 Watkins Lake Road
Pontiac, Michigan 48054
PURPOSE ...................Regular Meeting
The meeting is called in accordance with authorization
of Frances P. Clark, Chairman of the Parks and Recreation
Commission.
Cordially,
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R. Eric Reickel
Director
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OAKLAND COUNTY
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
October 13, 1972
1. Call Meeting to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes of September 22, 1972
4. Approval of Payments - Voucher No. 9-75 thru 9-185
5. Statement of Operations - August
6. Approval - Waterford -Oaks Roof Repair
7. Approval - Siding - Groveland-Oaks Residence
Addison -Oaks Farm House (Walker Road)
8. Old Business
a. Janitorial Services - Administrative Office
b. Program Statement - Waterford -Oaks
9. New Business
a. Water Conditioner - Addison -Oaks Shelter Building
10. Adjourn
ITEM #6
WATERFORD-OAKS
ACTIVITIES CENTER ROOF REPAIR
The Department of Facilities and Operations has received three
bids for the roof repair of the Waterford -Oaks Activities Center.
The attached memo from George Atchison, gives you a breakdown
of the bids.
It is recommended that we accept the Department of Facilities
and Operations recommendation and award the project to Hartford
Roofing and Siding Company for the amount of $4,389.00, and all
other bids be rejected.
J OAKLAND COUNTY
INTER -DEPARTMENTAL MEMO
Date, September 28, 1972
Wm. G. Atchison
From:
To: Eric Reickel
Subject: Roof repair at Waterford -Oaks Activities Buildina
Attached are copies of the specifications and the three (3) bids received on
September 27, 1972, regarding the roof repair of the Waterford -Oaks Activi-
ties building.
A summary of the bids are as follows:
1. Hartford Roofing Siding Co. $4,389.00
2. Price Roofing 42395.00
3. The Grumwell-Cashero Co., Inc. 6,650.00
Please note that Price Roofing did not meet specifications in that their
bid is based on five (5) inch gutters instead of the six (6) inch gutters -
specified.
It is our recommendation, the low bidder, Hartford Roofing and Siding Co.,
be accepted.
We will await your authorization before proceeding with the issuing of a
contract.
If you have any questions, please contact Dave Ross or myself.
Thank you.
Copies:
M. Handorf-attachments
D. Ross -attachments
C. Brown -attachments
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OAKLAND COUNTY PARKS
& RLECPEATION COMM.
SEP N 3
RECEIVED
ITEM #7
ALUMINUM SIDING
GROVELAND-OAKS AND ADDISON-OAKS RESIDENCES
Three bids have been received from three roofing and siding
firms for the siding of the Groveland-Oaks residence and the
Addison -Oaks residence on Walker Road.
The breakdown for the bids are as follows:
Groveland-Oaks
L & C Home Improvement
Savoie Insulation Co.
Hartford Roofing & Siding
Addison -Oaks
L & C Home Improvement
Savoie Insulation Co.
Hartford Roofing & Siding
$ 2,742.00
3,266.00
3,261.40
$ 3,484.00
4,540.67
4,909.00
After reviewing the bids and finding them in order, it is
recommended that the bid submitted by L & C Home Improvement
for a total of $6,226.00 be awarded and all other bids be
rejected.
ITEM #8a
JANITORIAL SERVICES
The Department of Facilities and Operations has submitted the
attached estimate for custodial services for the Waterford -Oaks
Administrative office.
After reviewing this estimate, it appears to be highly inflationary
compared to the present adequate service that we have. The cost
of our present service is $1,680.00 yearly.
This estimate was received at the request of the Commission so
it may have a comparison between the present setup and what the
County has to offer.
OAKLAND COUNTY
INTER -DEPARTMENTAL MEMO
Date. September 22, 1972
From:.,, Art Terreaul t - Facilities and Operations
To: Pauline McCormick - Parks and Recreation
Subject: Custodial Service Cost Estimate - Waterford Oaks Office Facilities
Regarding our conversation of September 19, 1972, concerning
Custodial Services for the Waterford Oaks office facilities, we feel
service can be provided with one Custodial personnel working 4-hours
daily.
Approximate Cost for remainder of 1972 ---- $2,169.80
Approximate Cost for 1973------------------ 7,310.00
In addition to the estimated cost for 1973 the cost of supplies
will have to be added to the $7,310.00 figure.
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cc: G. Atchison
M. Hand'orf
OAKLAND COUNTY PARKS
& 4''"ATION CO�r1M.
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ITEM #8b
WATERFORD-OAKS
POOL PROGRAM
The Program Statement for the proposed Waterford -Oaks Indoor
Swimming Pool has been prepared for submission to the State's
Department of Natural Resources.
Mr. Joseph Joachim of Swanson Associates Inc., will be present
to review the program with you so a decision may be made as to
the magnitude of this project. On your acceptance of the program,
we will then submit this statement to the Department of Natural
Resources (copy of Program Statement is attached).
ITEM #9
ADDISON-OAKS SHELTER BUILDING
WATER CONDITIONING
Bids have been received from three water softening firms.
Tabulation is as follows:
Culligan
$ 750.00
Water Softener Services Co. 962.49
Superior Water Conditioning Co. 12004.80
These bids were taken on specifications for 120,000 grain
capacity water conditioner.
Bids have been reviewed and it is recommended that Culligan
be awarded this bid for $750.00 and all other bids be rejected.
oakland county service center 2800 watkins lake road pontiac, michigan 338-6196
R. Eric Reickel Frances Clark
Director Chairman
Dnad W. Nick
September 21, 1972 VVice'Chairman
Henry A. Schiffer
Secretary
TO: Parks and Recreation Commission
Clarence A. Durbin
FROM: R. Eric Reickel Emil Jawors
William L. Mainland
Paul W. McGovern
SUBJECT: Liquor Control Commission Hearing for the Carl W. O'Brien
Springfield -Oaks Golf Course William M. Richards
E. Frank Richardson
Gerard Lacey, Manager of Springfield -Oaks, and myself attended
the Hearing held by the Liquor Control Commission giving the
opportunity to persons protesting the issuance of a liquor license
at the Springfield -Oaks Golf Course.
The basic intention of my appearing was to hear what the arguments
were, seeing that we were not notified by any type of correspondence
by the protestors, that they were objecting to this. So in order
to become informed and have a background as to the opposition, Mr.
Lacey and I attended the meeting.
The people attending the meeting in opposition to the issuance of
the license were: Mr. Eddy Shepherd, Coordinator of Activities for
the Michigan Licensed Beverage Association; Mr. Ed Morey; Mrs. Wanda
Rotherwall (one of the applicants for a license in Springfield
Township); Mr. Lewis from Bogie Lake Country Club; Mr. R. Walter
from Highland Hills Golf Club; Mr. Lloyd Sire from Pontiac Country
Club; Mr. Hummond from Arrowhead Golf Club and Mr. Krass from the
Detroit Metropolitan Bar Owner's Association. Mr. Shepherd submitted
a resolution that you will find attached with this memo, pertaining
to the Michigan Licensed Beverage Association's objection to the
Parks and Recreation bodies owning liquor licenses. The basic
argument sited by most of the people was the fact that they were
highly taxed and it was difficult for them to operate, and they
did not think it was fair that private enterprise should be
challenged by non-profit government organizations. They made a
tremendous amount of asumptions as to the fact that seeing we did
not have to pay taxes that we probably would undercut them in
greens fees and in food and beverage fees. They mentioned that
they objected to us getting into the banquet business. They felt
that our political clout allowed us to get these liquor licenses
over the private enterprise people. They were concerned with who
was responsible for enforcing the license once it was issued. Seeing
that there was not an individual responsible but an appointed
Commission.
Liquor Control Commission Hearing
Page 2 - September 21, 1972
It was not my intent to testify at this hearing, but to hear
the protestors. But in hearing all of the false asumptions
that were made on behalf of the people testifying, I felt it
incumbent upon myself, in the best interest of the County and
the Commission, that I did make a few comments. The comments
I made pertained basically to fact and philosphy. I informed
the Commission that it was the goal of the Parks and Recreation
Commission to be self-supporting and in order to be self-
supporting it required revenue producing facilities such as
golf courses and the liquor and food that support them. It is
not our intent to force anyone out of business, but we intend to
remain competitive in the field. It was also stated that our
greens fees were lower on the basis of nine -hole golf courses
and that the back nine of White Lake -Oaks was just opened the
first of August and that our fees were structured according to
the nine -holes. Also mentioned was that not a person in the
audience who was protesting against this has bothered to contact
or come to my office to get the facts straight in reference to
what we intended to do, but that everything they had heard was
second hand and completely unbased.
The basic complaint that was issued at this hearing was not in
particular to Springfield -Oaks at all, but the general philosphy
of the County not having liquor licenses to be in competition
with private enterprise. There was only one argument against the
Springfield -Oaks license and that was by Mrs. Rotherwall who said
that in 1961 she applied for the license and there was not one
available, but as soon as one was available they would be
considered. Upon the availability of a license the Rotherwalls
applied again and were denied because on the basis that Holly
Greens was near their establishment and there was not a need
for another license but she said that the County came in and
within five seconds was awarded the license. Again a false
statement.
I cannot speak for how the Commission felt in reference to this
hearing but they heard all the arguments and heard my testimony
and adjourned the meeting and will notify us in the future as to
what their decision was.
I do not sincerely feel that the issuance of this license is in
jeopardy.
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cc: Robert P. Allen,
Civil Counsel
1IICHIGAN LICENSED BEVER_kGE ASSOCIATION
RESOLUTION
WHEREAS, The Michigan Licensed Beverage Association does wholeheartedly
support the establishment of public park and recreational facilities for the
purpose of family enjoyment and recreation:
AND, �41EREAS, It supports the public programs for establishing such facil-
ities by governmental agencies;
AND, WHEREAS, It is not knowledgeable of any public park system that is
licensed to sell liquor on premises under their control;
AND, WHEREAS, State law prohibits the addition of liquor licenses on
state-owned lands;
AND, WHERE,IS, Webster's Encyclopedia of Dictionaries, on pages 364 and
1011 defines "state" as follows:
Pages 364 and loll:a "politically organized community; civil powers of such";
AND, WHEREAS, Such definition of "state" covers city, township, village or
County, as well as the sovereign State of Michigan and the Federal Government;
AND, WHEREAS, It is the unanimous consensus of the delegates of the Michi-
gan Licensed Beverage Association, assembled in convention at Lansing, Michigan
September 10-12, 1972, that the establishment of liquor licenses for public,
governmental bodies is in direct competition with private enterprises whose
taxes are used to subsidize park and recreation facilities for the public;
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, That the Michigan Licensed Beverage Association,
in convention on this 12th day of September, 1972, oppose the granting of liquc-
licenses to any public, politically organized city, village, township, county
and any politically established park or recreational facility that is supported
by any tax revenue measure or subsidy from tax funds; and, further, that the
Michigan Liquor Control Commission adopt this ao policy.
Respectfully submitte,a,
MICHIGAN LICEITSrD BEVERAGE ASSOCIATION
Gruen Cheek, Progide t
Eddy erheru, Coordinator of Activities
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